Cleaning a Hang Glider

Does anyone know about safely cleaning a hang glider?
I may have gotten the following wrong but I asked one of the guys from Wills Wing today if its OK to use soap to wash a hang glider sail. I thought he said you can use a mild detergent to clean a spot but that you should never wash the whole wing. As I understood it (or perhaps misunderstood) your not supposed to wet the whole wing because the sail is impregnated with a resin to protect it and getting the sail wet breaks this protection down. The sail can suffer shrinkage and as a result its flying characteristics are degraded. I was concerned by this because I thought I had heard it was a good idea to rinse the glider off occasionally, and I have done so.
I looked in the Wills Wing manual and I found the following: Cleaning Your Sail - Keeping your sail clean will extend the life of the cloth. When cleaning the entire sail you should generally use only water and a soft brush. You may clean small spots or stains with any commercial spot remover that is labeled for use on polyester.
Did I misunderstand what the gentleman was saying? Does this mean it is OK to rinse the whole wing with just water and only use a cleaning agent for small spots? I have soaked my entire wing a couple times by spraying it with a garden hose. I then wiped it with a towel and left it in the sun to dry. Is this a bad idea?

Mike Z



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Cleaning a Hang Glider.

Mike,
I have an old 1991 Wills Wing Super Sport. I have flown it in the rain, washed it, left it in the snow, baked it in the sun and the thing looks and flies great. I do have to do a little tunning once in a while but other than that no problems yet. I do think its best that you follow the instructions that came with your glider. EZ to get if you dont have.

Stay high and fly safe.
Brent


Cleaning a Hang Glider.

Hi Mike, I use pure Acetone and a S/S brush. It cleans like there is no tomorrow....... Yea NOT.

I just use H20 mixed with all the known suspended impurities that the water district allows to remain in our drinking water:)

I think letting your glider dry in a shady area is better than UV rays. Pick a day before you are going to fly. That way it can air out for a second time.
( = great excuse to fly)

Cya, Mark


I don't think that the resin

I don't think that the resin in the sail cloth is soluble enough in plain water to make washing your wing a concern, as long as you don't use stronger solvents than water and some diluted dishwashing soap to loosen the dirt. I've washed my entire Sport2 with water at least four times now and never noticed any change to the sail in the sense of before / after washing. With 2.5 years of use, it's not crispy new any more but is in good condition.


glider wash

Years ago there was an article in the hang gliding magazine about washing gliders. It basically said don't use harsh chemicals and don't drown the glider. Set it up completely and don't disassemble until completely dry. This might be to minimize shrinking if there is any. With our beautiful green LZ my 10 year old Fusion doesn't get washed as much as it used to. It does get a wash after flying in salty or dusty conditions. I've been using an automotive soap. Something you get at Pep Boys that doesn't remove wax or damage clear coats. I'm always amazed how much dirt flows off the wing with the first rinse. I would think that gritty abrasive dirt would be worse for the fabric than a mild soap and good rinse.

Tom


Cleaning

I've been washing my wings once every year for as long as I can remember without any adverse results. Hot day, mild car wash
detergent. Careful around the threads and seams with whatever you use to apply the soap. Good rinse after wards and towel dry letting the sun bake out the remainder. Cloth dries really quick on a hot day usually within an hour. Sails get pretty dirty
landing in Elsinore LZ. Have to be careful not to get gravel in bag
while breaking down.


Cleaning a Hang Glider

I do believe WW still recommends "Simple Green" in a diluted form (start with a mild solution) and a "soft" brush (like a 3" paint brush).
If increased strength and repeated washings don't have any results, give up. You can do more damage by washing than the dirt is doing by being there.
A much better solution is to have the "golf course green" style launch and landing area like they have in France. That way no dirt is getting in your glider. The glider last a LOT longer.

and they lived happily ever after.


paging Stan

I believe Stan could best rebut......
Stan?


simple green

Simple green even when diluted is much stronger than you need. If used on your car it will remove any protective coating and dry out the paint and shorten it's life.

There are lots of opinions on what to use... http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?p=1235


WW Uses Folex

I advocate the water and a soft brush method.

WW uses a product called 'Folex' (WW part #70L-1721, 12 oz. bottle) for spot-cleaning oils and grime from wings. Folex is a surfactant carpet-cleaner.

Diluted Simple Green is fine too. Just don't use harsh chemicals. Keep in mind the idea of not breaking-down the resins.

Wash your glider then take it for a flight; that's the best way to dry it out.

Good Flying,
Ken Howells


pH

What is really harmful to Dacron polyester is an alkaline pH in the presence of UV. It can handle solvents like MEK just fine. If the glider needs a complete wash, a pH balanced detergent like no-more-tears baby shampoo is best followed by rinsing, rinsing, rinsing. I think dirt acts like internal sandpaper on the fibers, so washing is a good thing. Plain water will get 90% of it. Spot cleaning with MEK will get another 5% and that may be enough. I also let it dry fully set up.

-Stan


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