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should this be a red dot?Seeking member input. Should this be a red dot? Pilot launches without legs in the leg loops. Is hanging low but is able to get into harness ok and hangs low for the landing but is able to run out the landing without problem. Possible reason for inclusion... potential for severe accident. So whaddayallthink? Forums > Pilot Reports Flight > Safety Maybe a 'brown dot'? ;)Maybe a 'brown dot'? ;) 3. Anything that would be considered very lucky that injuries were not caused. Included are the following air only (not contact with ground) incidents... mid air collisions, tumbles in hang gliders, unintentional and severe loss of altitude from a collapse or spiral in PG. This area may be quite subjective so a consensus from the CSS forum may be solicited to determine worthiness of inclusion. Was it obvious to observers that the pilot was in trouble? If so, then you might be able to additionally give it the 'caused a crisis' designation. Presumably this was HG - a PG could have remained seated for landing. Should we ask ourselves this?If there is an incident we should ask. Can our flying community learn something from this particular situation that may help to prevent a much more serious outcome in the future? There was no crisis, and theThere was no crisis, and the only reason we found out is the pilot fessed up to it after the flight. But yes, pretty serious stuff. Oh well, so far it looks like we will not be having a dot free year........... :( otohOn the other hand Rob, this is a wake-up call without physical penalty. Thank goodness for that and let me share why I did this once so someone else hopefully won't. The harness lines were strangely tangled and I became frustrated in trying to straighten them. When I finally got things in order I dove right into the shoulder straps. No one witnessed my error and no one saw anything odd with the launch (but I sure felt it). In landing, the snug backstrap gave me a backup hang support and then I suppose it would have been my armpits in the harness and hands on the bar. As it was, I was hanging too low to flare so ran the landing in with you and Ken giving me funny looks. I came up and confessed my sin. How to recoverFor those wondering how to recover. Video. November 2003. The pilot's name is Doc. He survived because he read about this a few months earlier. Figure EightRock Climbers have the same problem. They get distracted and forget to follow through with there harness buckle or to not finish tying in. Lots of Deaths each year from that. Lynn Hill, The top US Female climber topped off on a top rope and sat back to be lowered and had the rope pull through. She fell about 60 feet into a tree that broke her fall and also her ribs.... They teach a knott/harness check at the start of every pitch. The belayer checks for the leader also. Drugs are involved in some of these I guess as I have seen pilots puffing or drinking during there preflight or lack of it. Talking to pilots while they are getting there gear ready does not help much. (i do that a lot :) Parachute pins pulled or hanging by a thread on a few local Buzzards gear need to be checked. I have a lame harness preflight. I just remember i need to check three items aside from hooking in. leg straps/buckels/pins. Of course i look for tangled straps, zippers and zipper pulls and stuff while i load bags into the storage places... My ConfessionI launched without the leg loops once for the same reason Mike B. explained above. The shoulder straps felt wrong so I took the harness off and climbed in again, this time so intent on getting the shoulder straps right I neglected the leg loops. After launch I was able to kick into the harness and I remembered Dianne saying you could land OK with one leg loop, so I slipped into the right leg loop in flight. It was backward but it worked fine, I was able to flare easily. Mike Z Any landing.....Any landing you can walk await from is a good landing ! Not a red dot.... |
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The once I did that trick, it earned a red dot. Sounds like an exact repeat. Hung a bit low, got in harness OK, was unable to flare for landing but ran it out OK.
Edit - see the last incident in 2005.